Americanisms in dating…Of wingmen and pilots
April 11, 2008
I’ve been trying to come up with something to post about this week and life hasn’t been exciting. I thought however we would revisit Þórbjörn, the little swede I met in the US. We had a discussion about meeting someone in a bar in Sweden versus the US. Here are the conversations (edited to make sense).
The explanation of wingmen in American culture:
Þórbjörn: wingman ??
me: o m g
Þórbjörn: hey, i am from sweden!!
me: in fighter plane scenarios
there’s always a leader whose goal is to hit the main target
his wingmen (flying behind him in formation)
deal with enemy fire
Þórbjörn: haha
me: that’s real air force
in social situations it’s similar
Þórbjörn: so if i want my friend to hook up with a girl, i need to be his wingman?
me: well yes, but it’s an art
you have a lead pilot, usually an alpha male
he’s the most charismatic, friendly, and cunning with women
he’ll always have one or two male friends
those are wingmen
Þórbjörn: haha
me: those guys entertain the target’s female friends
the wingmen also soften the women up by being cute, silly, more romantic
during that confusion
the leader takes his target
Þórbjörn: so extreamly american…
me: hahaha, how so?
Þórbjörn: sounds very american ![]()
The Swedish way:
Þórbjörn:my friends in sweden never worked in that way
me: how does it work?
Þórbjörn: how did it work? oh, hot girl, i will go for her, screw you guys
me: oh yah, i was told guys have no problems ditching their friends
Þórbjörn: of course not…you can’t have sex with your friends
me: what about us and how we met?
Þórbjörn: our dating seemed very swedish to me… meet at a bar, have sex, start hanging out, have more sex =)
oh, and one woman at the time… that is complicated enough for me
How to talk to girl in the American bar:
What you do as a male who finally made it past enemy fire and has the target in range.
Þórbjörn: so what would I have done if I was an American?
me: first off, we wouldn’t have never made it to my place b/c i would have expected you to hit on me
and buy me drinks
and flirt and be cute
Þórbjörn: and then?
me: we probably would not have gone home together that night but rather exchanged numbers
maybe make out in the bar
Þórbjörn: that sounds utterly boring
me: LOL
then you would have called me a few days later and ask me out for dinner
Þórbjörn: why can’t you do that?
me: chivalry my friend, male chivalry
Þórbjörn: crazy americans
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1.
StalkerLeo | April 11, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Hmmm, I need to get me some technique! Usually I just went in blundering like an idiot and hope someone would take pity. Strangely, I always did really well.
2.
Ragnheiður | April 12, 2008 at 9:02 am
Bwhahahaha..!
Sorry ljúfust! But I agree with Þórbjörn. Your way seems really complicated and boring.
And if you see someone interesting it is ok to ditch your friends.
3.
Sapphire | April 12, 2008 at 11:47 am
I agree Ragnheiður, Americans are complicated. Too many rules.
I’ll stick to the Swedes.
4.
Nomadic Matt | April 12, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Having dated a swede, i agree. they are much more straighforward…and hotter…way way way hotter. they procreate well!!!
I like the blog….look forward to reading more….
stop by my world if you get a moment!
5.
Sapphire | May 17, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Ohhh, they do procreate well!
Enjoyed your blog too.
6.
Sapphire | June 22, 2008 at 6:28 pm
A good video on what a wingman is.
http://www.videojug.com/interview/the-wingman-2